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Dec 08th, 2007, 9:27am
 
Hi I attended Harold school from 1953 to 1959 and for a time lived at Coldwell St before moving to Sallynoggin, the family moved to England in 1959, I now live in New Zealand. I would be interested in hearing from any one who attended the school during that period.
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Reply #1 - Mar 5th, 2008, 7:11pm
 
HI LAR,I AM FROM GLASTHULE,EDEN VILLAS.IM 38 BUT MY MOTHER WAS FROM COLDWELL ST THEN MOVED TO FINDLATER ST.HER NAME WAS RITA O'NEILL,HER BROTHER WAS TUCKER,AND SISTER LINDA.MY MOTHER THEN MARRIED MICK SCALES FROM O.RORKES PARK IN THE NOGGIN,SO IF THERE IS ANYTHING I MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP WITH JUST DROP ME A LINE,TAKE CARE....RAG,GLASTHULE
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Reply #2 - Jun 30th, 2008, 12:11pm
 
What is your name Rag. I lived in Eden villas and might know your family. Our house was No 99. Paddy Rice at no 7 and Freddie Austin at No 1 were my mates. Paddy went on to be in the 8th. army while I was a memberof the Normandy invading force !
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Reply #3 - Jun 30th, 2008, 8:27pm
 
Chiropodist on the other Forum There is a chap called Jordo who has done monumental research into all the wars, I'm sure he would be very grateful for any information you would have. Wink
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Reply #4 - Nov 1st, 2009, 1:15am
 
Hi Rag
We lived at 50 Coldwell st from 1950 to about 1954, then moved to 72 O'Rorkes Park Sallynoggin, before moving to The Uk in 1959.
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Reply #5 - Jan 23rd, 2011, 8:41pm
 
mybrother billy byrne would have been in harold school then
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Reply #6 - Mar 3rd, 2011, 7:41pm
 
my aunt garry was in harold school from  1966
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Reply #7 - Jan 20th, 2012, 12:45pm
 
I'm just reading this site and came across a reference to Jordo doing research on WW2. I think I stumbled on him when I was seeking stuff on my family in WW1. I found out that my grandfather and his five brothers all from DunLaoghaire were in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers and other regiments fought in India. South Africa France and Flanders. When I went into the site on the number of DunLaoghaire Rathdown men killed in the first world war I cried. Nearly every house in DunLaoghaire or Blackrock was affected. I dont think people nowadays are aware of just how terrible this must have been.

My grandmother and her sisters walked from Avondale now near Power City in Sallynoggin to Glasthule for school in the 1880's. I'd say it was the 3r's then!!
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Reply #8 - Jan 28th, 2012, 9:34pm
 
OHH Avondale -sweet Avondale
used to walk from old Sallynoggin (which bears no resemblance to "the noggin" as it is called now" to Harold boys myself
ahhh great school -great teachers and I loved every minute of it --
Mr Meany -Mr Reagan-Mr Kirwin-Mr Kinnane the headmaster-etc ahhh great days
Big changes there now
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Reply #9 - Jan 31st, 2012, 12:37am
 
oooops forgot about Mr Brady
and Miss Jenkins in the canteen
and Mr Haskins the caretaker
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Reply #10 - Feb 1st, 2012, 9:00pm
 
Yes I remember all those teachers names too
and funnily enough the girl I  married years later  -attended the girls section of the school as well --

I might know you-we could have been in the same class

I have to say I enjoyed my time in the school as well -
I really never learned anything  Grin Grin
The headmaster Mr Kinnane wanted me to go work for Guinness
but .......................................
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Reply #11 - Feb 2nd, 2012, 5:53pm
 
Hello Casper and welcome to the Site. It is nice to see another male making an appearance and as you seem such a friendly type I hope you will join us often.
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Reply #12 - Feb 3rd, 2012, 2:05am
 
Hi Magic and thank you for the welcome
Im spending a lot of time reading back through some of the great posts -

the school I seem to remember it was known as St Josephs maybe my memory has it wrong
but we never called it Harold Boys Glasthule
we always called it Josephs Glasthule

now Im starting to remember the shops -the real ones where we bought our sweets
Meanys and ???? what was its name
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Reply #13 - Feb 4th, 2012, 9:16pm
 
I nearly did'nt make to the end of my time in glasthule School
nearly got expelled -but after a cringing tearful apology I was reinstated
I dont know to this day whether the school was serious or not
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Iwent on to become -well I had the chance-of being a part time
Lobotimist (but that would mean going to college 3 nights a week-so that was a no no)
or a pilot--
so I followed up the latter-
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Reply #14 - Feb 7th, 2012, 11:54pm
 
casper1 wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012, 2:05am:
the school I seem to remember it was known as St Josephs maybe my memory has it wrong
but we never called it Harold Boys Glasthule
we always called it Josephs Glasthule

now Im starting to remember the shops -the real ones where we bought our sweets
Meanys and ???? what was its name


I wouldn't be of any help to you Casper as I left Dun Laoghaire in 1956 -ish and Ireland around 1962. When I decided to visit Ireland after an absence of more than 50 years I spent a lot of time searching Google Maps for familiar landmarks. I am nearly sure that I attended Glasthule School as the entrance from the lane looked very familiar. Would that have been the entrance back then? There were three possible locations that from memory were possible locations where I lived with my mother they were Croswaite Park, Royal Terrace and Clarinda Park. I chose those three because our flat looked out onto a park, well a field anyway If I was to wager I would choose Croswaite only because I think I would have remembered the Cottage Home immediately off to my left as we lived on the west side of where ever it was, of that I am sure and the car parking facilities and tennis courts on Clarinda were very disorienting, obviously a new feature but none the less completely changing the landscape from that of my childhood.
Glasthule Church did not look one bit familiar and I am sure of its close proximity to the school we would have been regular visitors there as we were taught by the nuns in those days. I also have a vague recollection of visiting a nearby cinema with the school, my first and only visit to a cinema and it was SUB TITLED. Isnt it strange how some memories from childhood remain firmly implanted in ones mind.
I know I definitely went to CBS Eblana Avenue and maybe I am getting confused with schools as there was a cinema very close to that school and I could find no trace of one in Glasthule.
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Reply #15 - Feb 8th, 2012, 2:09am
 
Magic,
Have you been back yet or are you visiting this year? I never knew Glasthule very well but there was a great cinema the Forum on the opposite side of the road to the church and a little up the road near what was Glasthule Buildings. This cinema closed a few years ago and there is a supermarket on the spot.

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Reply #16 - Feb 9th, 2012, 9:40pm
 
orinoco flo wrote on Feb 8th, 2012, 2:09am:
Magic,
Have you been back yet or are you visiting this year? I never knew Glasthule very well but there was a great cinema the Forum on the opposite side of the road to the church and a little up the road near what was Glasthule Buildings. This cinema closed a few years ago and there is a supermarket on the spot.



Hi Orinoco and thanks for replying. I was back in 2010 and why I will never know. I was 9 when I left Dun Laoghaire and it was like looking for a needle in a haystack trying to piece my life together from way back then. I only have a vague recollection of my mother and our visits to Killiney Beach.  Is that strange? there and not Sandycove Harbour. I know we went on the train and maybe that is why the memories are so vivid but they are the only real memories I have or indeed want at this stage of my life.
Perhaps it was only something I thought I needed to get out of my system but Bognor Regis I feel would have had more of an effect on me and I have NEVER been there.
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Reply #17 - Feb 9th, 2012, 10:19pm
 
I'm delighted you came to DunLaoghaire and looked around. We all have ghosts of our past and a very real bind to the land of our birth and I'm sure you feel you can now move on.I went once to my childhood home where all my memories were, weird but cathartic (cant spell).
There was a girl on "who do you think you are" and her family way back had come from a desert country which she had never visited and when she arrived she felt such a bond "these are my tribe" she said. I think the Irisn are like that.
Killiney was the place to go. We also took the train a couple of times a year and went to Killiney and spent the day eating sandwiches and drinking tea on the beach. It was like Uncle Tom Cobbly et al. We brought friends neighbours cousins and mostly bunked on the train!! we bunked in everywhere we could!
Keep on the site and keep beating us into shape we lose the run of ourselves!!
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Reply #18 - Feb 10th, 2012, 8:55pm
 
Hi Orinoco,
I obviously did not explain myself properly unless the word you were looking for was catatonic as that was the state my trip left me in. My closing sentence clearly stated that a trip to Bognor would have been more therapeutic, if that’s what was needed and I seriously doubt it as I am the proverbial rolling stone and have never looked back, with any regrets anyway.
The one question that I repeated to myself for the duration of my trip was "What in the name of God am I doing here" I thought home I would never get because home, as they say, even if it is only South London, is where the heart is.
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Reply #19 - Feb 11th, 2012, 7:21pm
 
Trust me always get the wrong end of the stick. I love London and wasnt there for about twenty years. We went two years ago and had a great time. Forgotten how good it is. We stayed near Euston which is really smartened now.We went as part of a convention and they had an old red bus to take us on loads of tours around Buck palace. London Eye, Towerand we took a boat down to the end of the docks somewhere where they have built the flood barriers a great day on this and a train with no driver down the docklands. I sound like a kid but it was good!
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Reply #20 - Feb 12th, 2012, 3:48pm
 
orinoco flo wrote on Feb 11th, 2012, 7:21pm:
Trust me always get the wrong end of the stick.


Really!!! Hadn't noticed Shocked

Casper, Are we both getting the name mixed up with the church of that name down in Glasthule Village as I can find no reference to the school being ever officially referred to as St Josephs.
I was out there this morning and am trying to find an old photo of the school taken at the turn of the last century when only the girls section was completed to compare with the one I took today and will post as soon as ....
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Reply #21 - Feb 12th, 2012, 7:38pm
 
After his death in 1894 the Harold Memorial Schools were built to perpetuate the memory of Canon George Harold who was Parish Priest of St Josephs Glasthule. Two schools were built, one in Dalkey for boys and a girls’ school in Glasthule.
Both were built prior to 1900 and the first photo shows how small the original school was.



By 1909 the centre section and east wing were added to cater for the boys.



Note how well the original ‘west wing’ and the ‘new’ centre section and east wing compliment each other. This was due to the expertise of the architect James Wrenn who prepared the plans for the additions, it was a pity they didn’t engage him for the ‘white’ bits that make up the school now.
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Reply #22 - Feb 13th, 2012, 1:27am
 
These are wonderful pictures and history. Wasn't it a magnificent building in 1909 and the lovely red bricked addition- who thought the "white bit"would enhance it? Never was inside it even thought I've passed a million times. A hundred years and more of memories.
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Reply #23 - Feb 13th, 2012, 1:31am
 
Great photos of me old school there jordo
ahhh happy days ---
we used to say we went to "Glasthule school"
but as you and casper have said it was Harold Boys -yet I think some students refered to it as St. Josephs......
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Reply #24 - Sep 21st, 2012, 8:46pm
 


I went to the 'Nuns' part up until I made my First Communion and then on to the Brothers in C B S Eblana so although I knew Mr. Kinnane to see I never got to know him until my Tech years.
Apparently on retirement he took up the post of teaching General Knowledge there for a year or so and what a gentleman he proved to be.
My friend Shay H. and I visited him in his home on Albert Road shortly before he died and never was I made more welcome in anyones home, as I said one of lifes gentlemen.
His son Brendan was the school inspector and also a leader (known as Brothers) is St Brendan's Boys Club on Hudson Road where I was a member. As they say "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree"
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Reply #25 - Sep 22nd, 2012, 12:38am
 
You certainly have brought memories flooding back for me jordo
I attented the school as well and Mr Kinnane was one of lifes gentlemen R.I.P.
I never knew his christian name -his wife I met on one or two ocassions was a lovely lady.
Brendan the school inspector (Mr Kinnanes son) was a fair and gentle person whom I dont think ever raised his voice in a conversation
as you said jordo
"like father -like son"
very true in this case
some of my younger lifes gentlemen


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Reply #26 - Jan 25th, 2013, 1:13am
 
I had on occasion a couple of years ago on a visit  back to the town a chance to visit my old school
I made a phone call and was certainly encouraged to come visit
well even to this day the tour of the school -I was escorted by a lovely lady who could not do enough for me-is still so fresh in my mind.
Wow how time has brought on so many changes -
I hardly remembered the classrooms -so many changes
White boards and even the old (as they are called now) chalkboards
but in this modern era -projectors -computers-
To my embarrassment I was introduced to pupils in some of the classes
Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed
I have to say I kinda felt a little old when the teachers looked like they should have been pupils themselves in 6th class


however my fondest memory has to be -the schoolyard Grin Grin Grin
thats what school was all about
being in one of the "gangs" -well they were called gangs  Grin
running up and done the yard -
pushing all the younger kids out of the way
well we were in 3rd class Grin Grin
Ahhhhhh I could go on all night
regards all

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Reply #27 - Jan 26th, 2013, 12:05am
 
I do a little bit of work in the school and one of the teachers (in conjunction with the children) has started to put together a short history of the school. they still have "old roll books with notes in them but she says they cannot be "released" as some of the people may still be alive. I think the people would absolutely love to see them. from memory she has some old photos as well. Because Glasthule was, and still is, such a community many people still living in the area would have parents or grandparents mentioned in the roll books. Well worth talking to her about it.

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Reply #28 - Feb 25th, 2013, 5:19pm
 
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thats a pity about the roll books
what problems would getting a copy of your date of reg in the school cause?? -once you could produce your ID or maybe passport.
it could be a nice little sourse of extra revenue towards the school funds
and could maybe be operated by someone on these Gov. employment schemes,I keep reading about.
just a thought.
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Reply #29 - Feb 25th, 2013, 7:23pm
 
Àppparently it is to do with the notes in the Roll Book. Family members (or indeed school pupils) may still live in the locality and there may be something there to embarrass????

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Reply #30 - Mar 15th, 2013, 6:06pm
 
And from a different angle.




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Reply #31 - Mar 16th, 2013, 8:49pm
 
Excellent photo Jordo
Thank you.
never ceases to kinda bring back great memories of days gone by.
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Reply #32 - Mar 17th, 2013, 8:45am
 
Thanks Casper, yeah it turned out well. I took it in the early afternoon on a near clear day and the trees, in the Old Park, still dressed in their winter garb allowed the sun shine through.
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Reply #33 - Mar 17th, 2013, 9:06am
 
Really when you look at it the extension is totally out of character with the original building. I am in the school occasionally and the building is still in good condition inside.


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